How To Change Top Of Steel Elevation In Revit

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Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at ix:36:00 AM | Top of Steel Level for rotated beams #1
Daveybdab active Joined: Friday, Apr 30, 2010 54 Posts	Hi there. I have various beams in my model. I accept added spot elevations to show the Elevation of Steel levels for them on program. This works well for standard I beams, just am having bug getting it to recollect the correct level for rotated steel members - eg rotated angles. I have fastened a sketch showing what I mean. I believe that I need to meliorate something in the family of the relevant beam to tell Revt where I wait the spot meridian to be taken from but I don;t know how to do this..... Any suggestions? David
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Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 7:36:12 PM | Top of Steel Level for rotated beams #2
teafoe5 site moderator||| Joined: Friday, Nov 12, 2010 1749 Posts	So when you are putting the spot elevations in it is attaching itself to the side of the beam?
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Fri, Apr xx, 2012 at 8:57:35 AM | Peak of Steel Level for rotated beams #3
Daveybdab agile Joined: Fri, Apr 30, 2010 54 Posts	Hi. Sorry my pdf sketch was rotated when scanned. Basically I believe that when revit adds a level to a steel it is not actually calling out the level of the top of the steel, rather the level at a betoken on the steel (the point being defined in the family). I want it to display the actual level of the highest bit of the steel member.
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Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 1:36:forty PM | Top of Steel Level for rotated beams #4
teafoe5 site moderator||| Joined: Friday, Nov 12, 2010 1749 Posts	A spot height will just give you the elevation of the steel where you place it and I don't believe there is a mode to change it.  If you are doing a section why non but utilize a level to call out T/STEEL H.P. or something along those lines?  I attached a quick PDF of what I mean.
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Fri, Apr twenty, 2012 at iv:33:xi PM | Peak of Steel Level for rotated beams #5
Daveybdab agile Joined: Friday, Apr 30, 2010 54 Posts	We had thought almost calling out levels on the sections, merely wanted all the levels on the plans really every bit this will make the contractors life easier. I suppose I could indistinguishable the family unit and modify information technology, I am sure it is possible - or write in level in text and call back to change manually if the model changes!...........
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Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:40:26 PM | Top of Steel Level for rotated beams #half dozen
teafoe5 site moderator||| Joined: Fri, Nov 12, 2010 1749 Posts	"but wanted all the levels on the plans really" I'thou non following what you mean?
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Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at v:41:29 PM | Elevation of Steel Level for rotated beams #7
gregroberson active Joined: Thu, Apr 2, 2009 140 Posts No Rating	I think the the TOS will exist evaluated where the "symbolic line" is if you use the Beam Annotation tool.  I had problems using spot elevations . . . swithing view brandish options and they used to disappear in fibroid view. .  Y'all can suit this to be top, bot, ot centre.  Similarly, I think you tin can adapt the lateral location from side1, side2 or center.  You lot would have to exist careful how y'all rotate your member though.  Additionally, Yous may need to adjust the '10' and 'y' values for unsymmetric shapes. Greg
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Wednesday, Sep 21, 2016 at seven:03:21 PM | Top of Steel Level for rotated beams #8
mpyul active Joined: Midweek, Sep 21, 2016 0 Posts No Rating	Take (Had!) same problem. In program view, when you annote steel beams and want to testify the relative elevations of the start/end in relation to the given level of the programme, you need to be conscientious of certain setups: Nether your axle properties: do not apply the "z Offset Value" to lower or to raise a steel beam.  It's fast to do so but there are problems with this arroyo and those problems appear only when you need to adhere bracings or if yous demand to rotate the axle. Use instead "Start Level Commencement" and "Stop Level Outset".  Longer to practice only safer. Under Beam Annotations: The spot superlative tag must be prepare to "Electric current Level" (Relabtive Base) and to "Actual (Selected) Elevation" (Display Superlative) Now, why these setups? Vertical bracing volition not anchor itself properly to your beam (to its center of gravity) in an height view if you employ "z Commencement value" If you need to rotate a axle (belongings "Cross-Section Rotation") whose dimensions are note 'square'  and put information technology 'on flat' for case, your top of beam will not be where you expect information technology to be.  Expecially abrasive and disturbing with steel angles beacuse their center of gravity is in an odd position. And the information given by the elevaton tag may well be erroneous. I am stopping hither every bit I do not want to write a novel.  Hope this helps and points you in the right direction.
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